The smashfest of Tuesday was one of my best performances yet. I talk about this event and my thoughts on the ELO ranking system.
Hey guys, Maca here from melee.co and in this episode, I just wanted to talk about my performance on Tuesday. Because I actually think that it was potentially one of the best performances that I’ve ever had. But, we need to take into account what it was and that was it was an unpaid bracket on a Smash Fest night. Every Tuesday night, we go to the same place and we play a bracket, which I organize. I think there was 10 entrants in this bracket and I came fourth. I was pretty happy with this.
Before the night, what I had done, I had realized my worst match up, probably not my worst, but one of my bad ones was Falco. You can see Falco here just kind of standing there doing nothing. But, Falco was something that I really struggled with and didn’t know how to work out the match up. And then, what I did was I watched a bunch of Armada videos playing different Falcos, not just the Westballz one where Westballz camps as a Falco. But, I tried to mix it up.
I think we played against Frootloop. I think we played against a couple of other Falcos that I watched. I wanted to watch what he was doing as Peach against Falco and one of the things that I noticed is he spent a lot of time moving around. When you stand still, Falco just seems to dominate you. Down here is really easy for Falco to get. Down here’s in etc., etc.
So I just found that Armada was moving around a lot, was using platforms. He was powershielding, I can’t powershield. But, I did that before the night. I did some practice just on here against Falcos and I tried to play. What I did was I just tried to 4 stock Falcos, basically. I turned on the stock control and I gave Falco 4. Let’s go and do it. It might be more fun to watch. Not human, we want CPU. We’ll make him Falco, give him 4 stocks and computer level 9. I gave myself 1 stock. And so, this is what I was doing.
I was just playing random levels. Basically, my goal was to 4 stock Falco. It’s actually just gone and destroyed itself.
While that fixes up, I did that before the event. Went to the event, wasn’t necessarily feeling confident or not. The first match I played was against a brand new guy and so, I won that easily with my secondary character. That was a bit of fun. Then, the second match I played was against AussieRob, who’s the best Falcon on the Gold Coast. He beat me 3-0, but I think it went down to final stop either in 1 or 2 games and there was one game where he clutched it out. The first game, I almost won against him. So that was close, I was feeling good about that.
And then, I had to play JediLink who’s a Sheik main and who’s definitely better than me, but I seem to perform pretty well against. He does beat me, but he doesn’t 4 stock me or anything like that. It tends to down to last stock and be pretty close. I played against him and he kind of sandbagged. He went as Falco in those, which is probably his third-best character, but I 3-0’d his Falco. Obviously, he got 2 couterpicks in that.
I think we went to Pokemon stadium twice or something like that and I still managed to beat his Falco and do quite well against it. I think I may have 2 stocked him a couple of times or once or something like that. That then led me into a losers bracket again with AussieRob and this was for to go into losers’ finals. I actually took a game off him. I think I lost the first game and then I think I won the second game on FOD and then he beat me in the next 2 games.
I was really happy with that. I’ve never beaten him. I’ve never even come close to beating him in a bracket and I know it’s not a tournament, it’s an unpaid bracket. But, I was really happy with that. Overall, my performance last night, I felt like I was playing well. I was doing solid movement. I was moving around the stage really well. I was making decent decisions. They weren’t all perfect decisions, but a lot of them were good decisions and better decisions than I would make in the past. I was whiffing lefts. I was just concentrating more.
I’ve got this setup so let’s go ahead and try and 4 stock Falco. I’ve got a tournament on the weekend. Oh my God! I just tried to wavedash off the ledge and I died. I’ve got a tournament on the weekend, which is a larger tournament up in Brisbane with about probably 30-40 people will go.
My goal is really just to make it out of pools. That’s what I want to do. Another thing that Armada seems to do against Falco was a lot of these low bears. That’s something that I did that worked really well. So if you’re a Peach main and you’re playing against Falco, move around a lot. A lot of low bears tend to work really well. I don’t know why. I guess when you’re close it works well. When you’re further away, not so much because Falco will just hit you with his lasers like he did there. Oh! Obviously, try and avoid that kick.
See, I was really happy with my performance, was practicing a fair bit that week and on the weekends. So I was really happy with how I went. So, hopefully, the tournament on Saturday, I can repeat the success that I’ve been having.
Something that I’ve been thinking about this week as well is the Elo rankings. Everyone in Melee loves Power Rankings and everyone seems to hate Elo because it’s not accurate. I agree to a point because Elo changes constantly. Like for example, on Tuesday night, JediLink sandbagged against me. But, that goes towards Elo and so that pushes me up the rankings and that pushes him down the rankings.
There’s a lot of different scenarios where Elo might be out because players don’t attend or players attend tournaments more often. Often, you’ll have one event where someone just beats someone they probably shouldn’t have beaten. Recently, a couple of tournaments ago, just one of our unpaid brackets again, AussieRob beats Syke, who’s the second best in Queensland, and obviously, AussieRob jumped up, Syke went down.
So for that week, until the next event when Syke came back and won again, AussieRob was doing well and Syke was down. So people like Power Rankings because it’s an assessment of who’s the best in the world or who’s the best in your area at this point in time. But, I actually like the changing nature of Elo and to be like, well, you are number 1 most of the time, but not right now because you lost and you need to work to get back to number 1.
Rather than, you lost because you sandbagged, but you’re still at number 1 or – I was watching a tafo talk where he still credits PPMD right up the top because of heritage even though PPMD is saying he’s not coming to tournaments anymore and the performance of the Battle of the Five Gods wasn’t very good.
Power rankings are just – both of them are wrong. If you look at results at the moment, who’s best in the world? Is it Armada? It’s the hungrybox at the moment. And you could argue either way. Hungrybox at the moment, right now, given the latest results, is the best. Armada won GENESIS, but then hungrybox won Battle of the Five Gods. Hungrybox won DreamHack.
It’ll be interesting where Smash Summer is going on as I record this, so it’ll be interesting to see who wins Smash Summit, but if hungrybox wins Smash Summit, then he should be ranked number 1 in the world and it’s annoying that we need to wait 6 months or 12 months for the Melee It On Me rankings to update in order for him to be classified best in the world.
I like he way that tennis and the way that’s surfing and stuff do it – is that you kind of reset every single year. So you have events that are staple events and each year, depending on how you go in that event, or whether or not you attend that event, affects your ranking in the world. Let’s say a tennis player injures himself and he’s out of action for a year and he doesn’t attend events, then that’s going to affect his ranking on the global scale.
I’m pretty sure it happens the same with golf and all of that sort of stuff. I like the idea that things should fluctuate. Obviously, everyone has their own opinion and very few people agree with me and that’s fine.
It will take a long time until we have set majors. This will happen in the US where you have set majors and those are worth X amount of points to a final playoff or something like that. But, I do like Elo. I know that it’s not completely accurate.
I know that it fluctuates. But, the reason that I like it is because it encourages people to go to events. If you go to events that count towards the Elo of your local region, if you win, then you get points. If you lose, obviously, you lose points. If you don’t attend, then you just stay stagnant. But generally, your Elo will go up over time as you attend more events.
And so, I like that it rewards people who attend events versus Power Rankings where someone might leave the scene, have not attended any tournaments in the last year but you’re still ranking them up high because if they did one day decide to come back, chances are, they will probably win a tournament or place really highly in a tournament. So they still get ranked up highly, but there’s no incentive for them to come back to play if they want to keep that Power Ranking alive.
As you guys know, we play Melee because we’re competitive people. That’s why we play this competitive game. And so, it makes sense to have a ranking structure that is competitive in nature where people can compete, can improve and not one where the human element plays such a large role and it takes so long to update. It seems ridiculous that it would take someone 2 years to get on the local Power Ranking.
There was a guy, Niko, who’s a Captain Falcon, who’s really good. Probably top 7-10 in Queensland and I think he was saying, for 2 years, he wanted to be on the Power Ranking and it took that long because they just don’t update it.
Another thing, obviously, with power rankings is that they’re generally organized by the main best players in the area. Otherwise, they lack credibility. But then, that is also a conflict of interest because the best players want to stay at the top of the power ranking. And so, I don’t know.
There’s no perfect solution and power ranking is important and I hate to diss it, but I, as a lower tier player, current prefer Elo over Power Rankings and will so for the foreseeable future. And I just like encouraging newer players as well. Elo, they attend a tournament, they can see instant results in their Elo.
Whether it means they’re going down, whether it means they’re going up. It doesn’t really matter. They’re getting that feedback and they’re getting that growth and that’s definitely motivated me as a player and made me want to play more.
I don’t know, just something that I’ve been thinking about. I wish there was a way in my region to have Elo. But to have games that were older than a year reset, I think that will be a cool strategy. I don’t know.
If anyone has a better strategy of how to rank players from a local region, it’ll be awesome to hear of that strategy. But, at the moment, I’m just going to do some tech practice. Just basically practicing my wavedashing for the tournament tomorrow. I’ve been interstate for a couple of days and haven’t had the chance to practice. And so, really need to get some practice in tonight for the tournament tomorrow if I want to perform well. Something that I learnt from TO’ing my last tournament is don’t go and go straight into competing. Make sure you do some hand movements.
Make sure you do some tech skill practice so that when you do go into games, do some friendlies so when you do go into games, that you’re more prepared. Because when I TO’d, I didn’t play all night, went straight into my first event and did horribly and so many missed inputs and was just not very happy with my performance. So I’ll be doing more practice. I’ll do some practice tonight and then I’ll do some practice, hopefully, when I get there before I go into the event.
My goal for the event is just to get out of pools, that’s it. I’ve gotten out of pools once and I did pretty well at the New Zealand tournament where they just had a bracket. But, I’ve only gotten out of pools once and it was a time when 5 of the top 10 players weren’t even there. If I can get out of pools again, I will be an extremely happy man. Okay.
I just worked out why my air dodges were stuffing up. But yeah, if I can make it out of tournament again, I’ll be a very happy man. Obviously, I would love my Elo ranking to go up even more because I perform well. But, I’m not going to be too hopeful. We’ll see how we go and I’ll try my best.
I think I’ll close it off there. I’m just going to keep doing some practice. I got to actually do some work so I’ll make some videos for my other sites at the moment. Wish me luck on my tournament tomorrow and I’ll be back on next week to let you guys know how I go in the tournament, how I performed. Maybe, if we’re lucky, we’ll have a recording of a match.
I do have the recording of the match with AussieRob where I won a game. And so, I will be doing a match analysis of that to find out what did I do well, what did I do poorly, what do I need to think about in terms of playing against Captain Falcons. I’d love to have the time to do it before the tournament because I do feel like doing that sort of analysis, analyzing those matches.
You know what I’m going to do next week? Is I’ll analyze that match, but then I’ll also go ahead and I’ll watch some professional matches. So I’ll watch Armada Peach versus something like Wizzrobe or S2J or someone like that or Gravy or something, one of the Captain Falcons and I’ll see, okay, what does he do as Peach that I can do? Because when I did that against Falco, it really improved my skill against Falco.
I played JediLink, he played as Falco. I think if I hadn’t done that analysis, I might have lost. But, because I had gone and done that analysis of, how does Armada play as Peach against Falco? What are some of the things that he does? He moves around a lot. Even the low back airs that he was doing was really, really powerful and really helpful. So, next week, that’s the plan.
I will do an analysis of my match with AussieRob. I will also look at what does Armada do well when he’s playing as Peach against Captain Falcon and I will try and imitate that, try and do some of those things. Might try and have a look at those tonight – what Armada does. Probably won’t have the time to analyze my own match tonight, but I can look at what Armada does as Peach against Captain Falcon tonight so when I go in tomorrow, to the tournament, I’ve got a better idea what to do.
That’s it for me, guys, peace out. Until next time, keep calm and play Melee.